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    With Jinbe staying behid there will be only Sanji to protect Sunny if Daifuku gets to chase Strawhats.

    He magically catched up to Smoothie ship after his entire fleet was drifting and he came there by himself. So somehow he can move fast from point A to point B over the sea.

    With Jinbe being out we might get aerial 1 vs 1 for Sanji now, that is quite perfect set up.

    I am not loosing hope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nekketsu View Post
    Even if they get out of Totland, aren't all of the Strawhat relatives in danger? At this point I do believe the chase will keep going to Wano.
    except they shouldn't know where they are going so as long as they get out of sight no chase can happen.

    that's the entire point of this chapter, the fishman are stalling the fleet so that they can get out of the part of the sea that it's monitored

    Quote Originally Posted by Piitan View Post
    The actual chapter turned out better than the spoilers (whatta surprise!), but it's still disappointing nonetheless. Sanji's cake amounted to nothing. The ship switch was dumb (as in, cliffhanger just for the sake of it). And the Jimbe situation, while totally understandable from the POV of the character (his moniker as a Shichibukai was 'knight', of course he won't let people dear to him die), it's still blue balling to the maximum.
    Quote Originally Posted by Seafarer33 View Post
    Ok, this time I'm seriously pissed.

    The cliffhanger was a massive troll (expected that though). We're STILL not done with the escape. Jinbe is gone with the wind again. And the cake... the bloody cake... has had absolutely no effect whatsoever. Other than to restore Mama to exactly how she was when the wedding started. Sanji's sole cooking achievement this arc is... that he can make someone fat in a matter of minutes. This is me thrilled. And also sooooooo very glad we've had this cake-centered drama occupy the center of the scene for what felt like 20 chapters. Bah.


    The chapter in itself isn't bad, but I'm just too disappointed in the larger picture to enjoy it.

    it saved an entire kingdom and managed to lure away big mom giving them an actual chance to escape

    pretty big things for something that "amounted to nothing"..what did you want it to do, kill big mom?

    Quote Originally Posted by Nekketsu View Post
    Should be obvious by now, that this ain't over, and the BMP ain't sitting that one down.
    not sure...sea currents are kind of an important obstacle for a fleet..as long as the fishman are able to keep doing that shit...maybe just slightly receding one meter after the other so they are out of oven's reach,i'd say it's realistic that they'd be left behind

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    The positive reaction to Gerth, including my own, has me wondering a bit. Because appearance-wise, she's a Nami clone. But besides that...she's probably been the most positive presence in Big Mom's life. And she's stuck out to me that way.

    Quote Originally Posted by Seafarer33 View Post
    Ok, this time I'm seriously pissed.

    The cliffhanger was a massive troll (expected that though). We're STILL not done with the escape. Jinbe is gone with the wind again. And the cake... the bloody cake... has had absolutely no effect whatsoever. Other than to restore Mama to exactly how she was when the wedding started. Sanji's sole cooking achievement this arc is... that he can make someone fat in a matter of minutes. This is me thrilled. And also sooooooo very glad we've had this cake-centered drama occupy the center of the scene for what felt like 20 chapters. Bah.


    The chapter in itself isn't bad, but I'm just too disappointed in the larger picture to enjoy it.
    I actually think this arc is extremely close to done. We might get 2 or so chapters to wrap up any immediate concerns, but the outcome of the Sun Pirates' attacks is gonna be held off till Wano, Big Mom is going to get to Cacao to find no Straw Hats, the Firetanks are home free, and the Germa, well, fuck 'em. The panel of the Sunny distancing itself from basically everything and going into open sea felt very conclusive to me and I'll be surprised if we aren't in Reverie within a month.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaido King of the Beasts View Post
    You're saying there was a time when it wasn't going this direction?
    you're right. just following standard op formula *sigh*

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    Quote Originally Posted by Razh View Post
    Oh look, a giant Nami with braids.

    Don't mind a switch. Need to add in a cheap(er) cliffhanger here and there. Stuff was omitted from us in order to make it believable. One BMP's remark about a suspicious movements earlier doesn't make it ok. I do mind that the flag was lost and it wasn't addressed in any way. Losing the flag is a pretty big deal. Or so we've been told in Davy Back Fight arc.
    losing the flag in a davy back fight means that you can't use it anymore, ever.

    here they just have to paint a new one.

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    Luffy and co. aren't dead?!?! Holy shit! You did it again, Oda, you absolute madman!!!


    Jinbei still not fully joining is simultaneously hilarious and annoying. Maybe Oda is waiting for the whole crew to be back together. As long as this doesn't stop Carrot from joining, I'm cool. :V

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    Quote Originally Posted by Super Tony View Post
    you're right. just following standard op formula *sigh*
    seem like you have no idea how a rise to power actually works.

    no one rules the world alone

    also, the yonkous are choke full of allied and subordinate crews that help them

    why sould the strawhats solo the entire journey?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Razh View Post
    (...)
    I remember seeing that and thinking... why not?

    Good call.
    Thx, but tbh the Moment I was done typing that, I thought: "wait, Wadatsumi was also boiled by Oven."
    The 2nd week of the break I was in the "damaged-but-not-destroyed"-camp.
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    Gerth ,yeah almost everybody guessed right it makes sense, she has similiar design to first draft of Nami i think way back minus the mechanical leg.
    Watasumi was a nice suprise, too bad the switch didnt fool BMP.
    Oven being constant suprise for me in good way , he has good mastery of his power .
    Nice moment with Jinbei and Luffy.
    I knew it Morgans would want to watch it till the end, seagull power .


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    Quote Originally Posted by Maju View Post
    losing the flag in a davy back fight means that you can't use it anymore, ever.

    here they just have to paint a new one.
    I'm not talking about losing the flag in Davy Back Fight, I'm talking about the importance of the pirate flag to the pirate crew. Remember when Luffy tanked cannonballs just to preserve Hiruluk's flag?

    So no, didn't expect SH would disband, but I would expect someone to notice the flag is missing and be sad about it. Get me now?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roronoa Zacho View Post
    Thx, but tbh the Moment I was done typing that, I thought: "wait, Wadatsumi was also boiled by Oven."
    The 2nd week of the break I was in the "damaged-but-not-destroyed"-camp.
    wellnone of the theories around were 100% air-tight,but the fishman pirates surviving a bit of hot water for a bit was certainly the less outrageous thing that could happen.

    i've saw the theory made by other people on the internet, but you are the only one that i saw mentioning wadatsumi's mouth, so kudos.

    Quote Originally Posted by Razh View Post
    I'm not talking about losing the flag in Davy Back Fight, I'm talking about the importance of the pirate flag to the pirate crew. Remember when Luffy tanked cannonballs just to preserve Hiruluk's flag?

    So no, didn't expect SH would disband, but I would expect someone to notice the flag is missing and be sad about it. Get me now?
    well, in that case it was there as a memorial for hiruluk..luffy was protecting the ideals behind the flag more than just the act of losing the flag itself..but i get what you meant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theackwardstation View Post
    The cake stalled Big Mom from her personal chase a long time ago, serving its original purpose. Otherwise how else they would escape from a flying Yonkou?
    That both disappoints and puzzles me, in fact. If the cake had left her out cold in bliss wonderland for a couple days, then at least it would have had some form of tangible payoff and I would have been willing to believe that the escape was indeed over.
    But, Oda just dropped a fully-charged Big Mom back into the equation and so something has to happen to stop her from catching up. The Straw Hats couldn't distance her when she was half-starved and brain-dead from her cake obsession, I don't see how they're going to when she's back at full strength and clear-headed. I know she's supposedly too far away thanks to Chiffon's insistance on luring her to Puffs island, but seeing how relative distances and ship speeds can be in this manga I'm not really buying this as a satisfactory explanation.

    So, escape not done and I expect we'll still need one or two chapters to completely wrap it up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tayshaun View Post
    Maybe you answered this question before, but what is "even if you die, don't die" supposed to mean?
    If I understand it correctly based on what has been mentioned already, itīs something along the lines of "donīt die, even if it kills you". Like do everything you can to survive this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaido King of the Beasts View Post
    The positive reaction to Gerth, including my own, has me wondering a bit. Because appearance-wise, she's a Nami clone. But besides that...she's probably been the most positive presence in Big Mom's life. And she's stuck out to me that way.


    I actually think this arc is extremely close to done. We might get 2 or so chapters to wrap up any immediate concerns, but the outcome of the Sun Pirates' attacks is gonna be held off till Wano, Big Mom is going to get to Cacao to find no Straw Hats, the Firetanks are home free, and the Germa, well, fuck 'em. The panel of the Sunny distancing itself from basically everything and going into open sea felt very conclusive to me and I'll be surprised if we aren't in Reverie within a month.
    I want to agree but I can't help but think there's more to this arc for us. We can't leave Jajji yet[I need those eyebrows] and Pudding must still reveal that Sanji/SH's made the cake and leave Tottoland somehow. Plus the SH's still have Zeus, Nami still has Big Mom's Vivre Card, Brulee' still hasn't snitched about those poneglyphs, and Mascato is alive now somehow so I'm wondering if Opera is also alive. I'm thinking we have another 10 chapters at the least before we start to move on, and those chapters will highlight the SH's final hours in Big Mom's territory. Also I'm really hoping Jinbe dies here, as unlikely as that is thanks to this chapters title.
    =D

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maju View Post
    not sure...sea currents are kind of an important obstacle for a fleet..as long as the fishman are able to keep doing that shit...maybe just slightly receding one meter after the other so they are out of oven's reach,i'd say it's realistic that they'd be left behind
    I mean in the long run. Personally, Elbaf would be the perfect place for Big Mom to go down once and for all. And of course, Hajrudin and Gerth have to also be there to witness that.
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    One of the aspects that I think we've been overlooking from this chapter is that Luffy's bounty after this is going to be huge.

    Defeating a 1 billion berry man and another guy who wasn't too far off from that + wrecking a Yonko's main base + a former warlord joining his crew + the assorted stuff other people have been doing under his flag (Bart took an island from another Yonko). All of that adds up to an earth-shaking bounty. And what's more, the one who'll be reporting this to the marines is someone who will be framing it all in the context of a very likely candidate for the title of pirate king.

    (Stussy reports directly to the Tenryuubito, so it'll probably be Morgans that will report this to the marines)

    I predict 1.5 billion minimum.

    Purely coincidence

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maju View Post
    pretty big things for something that "amounted to nothing"..what did you want it to do, kill big mom?
    Nothing so drastic. I would just have wanted the bliss and exhaustion to leave Big Mom out cold for a couple hours, or a couple days, which would have made her indisputably unable to participate in whatever's coming. The way things are now, it's "thank you for the meal" and then back to business immediately.
    Yes, Sanji achieved a cooking feat no-one else could have and yes, it saved Tottoland (although this last part leaves me cold. I would have been okay with Big Mom destroying her dreamland as a form of karmic redemption). And it will probably buy the Straw Hats enough time to escape, but this last part is really thanks to Chiffon's dedication and has little to do with the cake itself. It made the story progress, yet I can't help but feel it's hardly satisfying as a payoff to everything Sanji endured throughout his horrible character arc.

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    +1 on disappointment surrounding the cake. We went through that entire weeeeeeddddiinnnggg caaaaaake problem and resolution, and now we're back to square one, with Big Mom chasing them again. No Okama Kenpo effects from eating it? What's the point of building it up as a skill in the first place? I'm still going BM is gonna come down with some sort of effect in the chapters to come.

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    Gerth's design looks a lot like that one original design for Nami where she was a cyborg who used a battle axe, that's neat that it came back.

    Besides that I didn't particularly like chapter 900 and it's follow up isn't much better, I am very ready for this arc to end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AvocadoInTheRain View Post
    One of the aspects that I think we've been overlooking from this chapter is that Luffy's bounty after this is going to be huge.

    Defeating a 1 billion berry man and another guy who wasn't too far off from that + wrecking a Yonko's main base + a former warlord joining his crew + the assorted stuff other people have been doing under his flag (Bart took an island from another Yonko). All of that adds up to an earth-shaking bounty. And what's more, the one who'll be reporting this to the marines is someone who will be framing it all in the context of a very likely candidate for the title of pirate king.

    (Stussy reports directly to the Tenryuubito, so it'll probably be Morgans that will report this to the marines)

    I predict 1.5 billion minimum.
    lol, naw bruh. I'm predicting 1 billion as the maximum for Luffy's bounty after this arc. Correct me if I'm wrong but Morgans only knows that Luffy wrecked havoc and beat Cracker, he may assume he beat Katakuri but he doesn't know that yet, i think.

    Quote Originally Posted by Watch-man View Post
    With Jinbe staying behid there will be only Sanji to protect Sunny if Daifuku gets to chase Strawhats.

    He magically catched up to Smoothie ship after his entire fleet was drifting and he came there by himself. So somehow he can move fast from point A to point B over the sea.

    With Jinbe being out we might get aerial 1 vs 1 for Sanji now, that is quite perfect set up.

    I am not loosing hope.
    Lol, sorry bro, I don't know if we're getting another fight to pass the time yet, but I don't see Daifuku catching up, without Oven and Smoothie. And I don't foresee another Sweet Commander in combat this arc.
    =D

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