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    I just finished the 2nd season. It's kinda an odd episode to pause on. Buuuut. I enjoyed it. I love when kid shows actually give us more perspective.

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    Bow having two black dads was surprising. But when you see Lance and George interact you see bits of their personalities that make up Bow's and it was so sweet. Also 13 brothers? Holy crap I have questions lol.

    The First One's tattoo actually being Lunch instead of Love had me dying.



    My opinion of Catra didn't change much towards the end. I feel slightly bad. But for someone who's a survivor type I would have expected her to bounce. Did Adora not ask her to leave as well in season 1? Really there's no benefit and it seems like she's just being prideful and jealous.

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    Also it bugs me she's so mean to Scorpia and she just wants to be besties or more. But I think if Hordak tosses her in to the beast zone or whatever she'll go after her. Oooo maybe we'll get a Battle Cat cameo.

    Entrapa's logic in staying with the horde because of tech is kinda silly when they spend so much time stealing tech from the Princesses territory. But if Scorpia and Catra leave I imagine the ranks will get filled with whoever comes from that portal.

    Spinner's plotline will be interesting...

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    I'm just kind of annoyed they didn't change the opening to reflect the new status quo with some of the characters. Makes me thing some of the changes aren't really going to be super long term.
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    Oh yeah. It still shows Entrapta as one of the rebellion princesses. Does Netflix change their kid friendly show openings? I can only think of Bojack changing their's slightly. But they don't seem to invest a ton of time on them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclone_Baroness View Post
    My opinion of Catra didn't change much towards the end. I feel slightly bad. But for someone who's a survivor type I would have expected her to bounce. Did Adora not ask her to leave as well in season 1? Really there's no benefit and it seems like she's just being prideful and jealous.
    Leaving an abusive home isn't exactly easy under any circumstances. For Adora, it took exposure to the outside world and a discovery of her own ability to shape it for her to find a reason to leave. Catra, though, has a more entangled relationship with the horde. She was always treated as useless in a society that valued strength over anything, and thought that her power just wasn't being recognized. This frustrated Catra and caused her to develop a complex about proving herself against the people who mistreated her. In her mind, Adora not only abandoned her struggle, but actively held her back. Once she overcame Shadow Weaver, Catra's sense of accomplishment in the horde and antagonism towards Adora kept her firmly on the Horde's side. Now that she has responsibility and knows the terror of dealing with Hordak, she has a fear of his wrath, too. From the outside it's easy to go 'yo, you're being mistreated, get out of there!' but to Catra, being told that would be being told to give up, to prove to everyone that she really was useless all along, to accept that her accomplishments are meaningless and that she's been holding herself back, and to expose herself to Hordak's vengeance. So there's a bit of baggage there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclone_Baroness View Post
    Oh yeah. It still shows Entrapta as one of the rebellion princesses. Does Netflix change their kid friendly show openings? I can only think of Bojack changing their's slightly. But they don't seem to invest a ton of time on them.
    I haven't watched too many of the NF original shows. Fuller House has updated its opening to show the kids growing up. It's not really on Netflix, its on the showrunners. And the style of the opening means it would have been a really, REALLY easy change to make.

    So it'll be really jarring if she's still with the badguys in 50 episodes but her status in 2 early episodes keeps her right there in the opening forever. She was one of the baddies in the original show apparently so... she was always intended to go over there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wagomu View Post
    Leaving an abusive home isn't exactly easy under any circumstances. For Adora, it took exposure to the outside world and a discovery of her own ability to shape it for her to find a reason to leave. Catra, though, has a more entangled relationship with the horde. She was always treated as useless in a society that valued strength over anything, and thought that her power just wasn't being recognized. This frustrated Catra and caused her to develop a complex about proving herself against the people who mistreated her. In her mind, Adora not only abandoned her struggle, but actively held her back. Once she overcame Shadow Weaver, Catra's sense of accomplishment in the horde and antagonism towards Adora kept her firmly on the Horde's side. Now that she has responsibility and knows the terror of dealing with Hordak, she has a fear of his wrath, too. From the outside it's easy to go 'yo, you're being mistreated, get out of there!' but to Catra, being told that would be being told to give up, to prove to everyone that she really was useless all along, to accept that her accomplishments are meaningless and that she's been holding herself back, and to expose herself to Hordak's vengeance. So there's a bit of baggage there.
    I see your points. I still find her obnoxious and irritating.

    @Robby. Well I dunno. I forgot Fuller House existed. Also I figured live Action would be easier to slap together a new opening. I didn't recall Entrapa being a villain originally. That's kinda interesting. Was she anything like this version?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclone_Baroness View Post
    @Robby. Well I dunno. I forgot Fuller House existed. Also I figured live Action would be easier to slap together a new opening. I didn't recall Entrapa being a villain originally. That's kinda interesting. Was she anything like this version?
    She didn't show up till the second season.

    And basically no one on the old show was anything like their version on the new show. It's pretty much a whole cloth reimagination aside from the premise and the names. They were all much, much worse in the old one.


    And even in animation that opening would be easy to change. You remove a half second of footage where she's actually animated in the front sequence.... (and actually since she's between the good and badguy sections she's probably okay there....) and then remove her from one *still frame* and then insert her into a different *still frame*. No new animation or complicated intertwining needed, it'd be super easy. I could Photoshop it in about five minutes from the raw flat assets, someone with the actual layered files in front of them should be able to do it cleanly in like two seconds.

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    True should be easy fixes...Also I didn't realize those two other princesses who rarely get to speak were hugging lol.

    Also holy crap that clip was ridiculous lol.

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    Just finished the second season last night

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    Catra's character development is phenomenal, even if I am rooting for her much less in this season than in the last one. In the last season it was easier to feel her pain and want her to succeed, in this one her weaknesses break through so much more and make her harder to sympathize with overall. But they make for such great character development, particularly her interactions with Shadow Weaver, that I can't fault them for it. Her nastier streaks in this season all make sense character-wise, so it's not just an evil character being evil because evil, and I love that.

    Entrapta being wacky for the sake of wacky still kind of tires me, she's probably the least redeemable character for me. Almost everyone in the horde I can like for being on the Horde side due to their own personal reasons and ambitions, but Entrapta causing actual serious harm and potential death on an entire planet and just being derpily happy anyway and showing barely any remorse when interacting with clearly distraught Bow and Glimmer... it makes her seem so cruel to me.

    Talk about reasons and ambitions, I want to know more about how Scorpia wound up on the Horde side because she's quickly becoming one of the most likable characters. The planning episode threatened to go too far into her quirkiness, but it was still hilarious, and the show still makes her threatening when she's fighting the rebels. Then the sea hawk interaction in that one episode gave her such a strong showing that I start to hope she gets what she wants and Catra notices what she can provide.

    Bow is the other main winner of these episodes. He was always likable in the first season but in this one he was just particularly strong, often being the person in the main trio that brought everyone to their senses and moved the plot forward. The episode with his dads was also sheer fun, and his moment in the planning episode was easily a highlight of the season.

    Hope more episodes are coming soon, the more this show goes the more impressed I am by the writing and consistency of the characters. I wish is that the scope of the show was larger, but with only seven episodes in a season I'm perfectly fine with the fact that the show limits itself in how many characters get focus since it allows for those characters to have really strong arcs and personalities.

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    Season 3 hits August 2nd.


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    The new season is out and 6 episodes long, which combines with S2's 7 to make one of the orders of 13 they were given initially. Guess they split up the season and renamed it? Maybe they had their total order cut but were still promised 4 seasons so they split 3 cover it. Or we'll still get the original 52 episode order just divided into more seasons for whatever reason.

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    If its like Voltron and Dragon Prince, they just split the "traditional" seasons so we can get runs of episodes every couple months instead of there being nine-twelve month gaps while waiting for 13 episodes to be drawn.

    Netflix is weird about that, they don't after the fact count added episodes as part of the previous season, they just make it the "new" season. Which is probably the simplest way to do it in their format and still make it clear that they are new episodes. But when it hits dvd it'll still be in 13 or 26 episode chunks. (Voltron for instance had seasona 1 and 2 for one set, then seasons 3-6 for another)

    So at a guess I'd say the series is plotted around 4 sets of 13, since plotting with one long first season then 3 short seasons is weird.

    One does wonder where all those Swiftwind shorts fall into the numbers though.
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    Well there's a lot to unpack.
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    But I guess Catdora ship is beyond sunken by now. Scorpia and Entrapta keep stealing the show.









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    Well that had a lot going on for sure.

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    I'm guessing Micha is actually alive somewhere based on his cut off words.

    I had started liking Catra a smidgen. But I still don't like her like her lol. Tolerable for her type of villain.

    This season had a lot of...I dunno. What was with the Entrapa Hordak thing? I'm not sure I liked where that was going. But it also depends on how old everyone is supposed to be lol.

    Scorpia is still best princess.

    Glimmer is still massively annoying. She yells way too much when she's trying to explain stuff. I can see why her mom wouldn't really take her seriously.

    All in all that was a pretty good reality warping mess they got into.


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    This season had a lot of...I dunno. What was with the Entrapa Hordak thing? I'm not sure I liked where that was going. But it also depends on how old everyone is supposed to be lol.


    But....That was the best thing of this season.

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    Entrapta and Hordak were great! Seeing a more human side of Hordak and the way this season ended, I wonder if they're going to be building towards an alliance of She-ra and Hordak vs Horde Prime for the long term. Redeeming him seems a bit much considering what he made everyone go through, but maybe once he realizes that he was replicating what he was made to go through, he'll realize who he should be taking his anger out against.

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    Well, that was a lot of stuff happening in thet season.

    Catra is still my favorite of the bunch by far (With Entrapta and Scorpia right behind) but.... yeah. That's definitely a tipping point for her. It's going to be reeeeeal hard to come back from that.

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    But it also depends on how old everyone is supposed to be lol.
    Showrunners haven't pinned down exact ages because I guess they didn't need to but they and the art team have given out roughs. Adora and Catra are 17 or 18. Presumably so are Bow and Glimmer.

    Frosta is the only canon age we have, and she's 11.

    Mermista and Seahawk I have to assume are in their 20's.

    Entrapta is apparently 28-30, same age as her character designer. A it older than the others.



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    Late 20s early 30s? Noice I'll allow the Hordak ship to sail then lol.

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    The evil horde.


    Also apparemtly this was an inbetween frame that was ultimately cut but became an office in-joke. (And an inbetween it looking weird is okay because its bridging two moments, but...)


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