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    Quote Originally Posted by darkmninya View Post
    Only Robin knows where pluton is ,cobra only know the Location of the Porneglyph. So BB searching for Pluton is not possible, noone know where it is expect Robin.
    If you hear the voices of all things you could probably suss it out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wolfwood View Post
    But to that Sengoku point where you can just sit and eat snacks and help when and if you want.
    To me the whole point was to make them both more free to interact with the world and possibly our good guys. Sengoku especially. And it effectively removed Akainu from the front lines, where he'd be one juicy bait for Luffy.

    Quote Originally Posted by wolfwood View Post
    Seems the most likely. A horde of perfected bearbots with added features and even more uncuttable. If the CP0-Wano deal was for a shitton of seastone they might even be made out of that material.
    It would be a lot more interesting if new batch had new design(s). Just to keep things fresh and maybe add a mystery or two. And Kuma bots are far from useless as they are, especially if there's more of them. I shudder to think how many of them are now, if the production went steadily for 2 years. In theory, every marine battleship could have a whole squad of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by darkmninya View Post
    Only Robin knows where pluton is ,cobra only know the Location of the Porneglyph. So BB searching for Pluton is not possible, noone know where it is expect Robin.
    I think Porneglyph only shows location of Uranus.
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    I want the mihawk bots, imagine horde of robots WSS shooting lasers and stuff. But having one of each warlord inspired bot is better.

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    Well Kuma bots were only made possible by Kuma himself agreeing to be a guinea pig. Doubt we're getting other Shichi versions of Pacifista.
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    I'm not very confortable with this chapter. I found the narration was very confusing. Oda wants to say a lot of things happened but he only half tell most of them. The shichibukai things is hinted in the begining but only revealed at the end, though it was already said before that they would be revoked. Sabo and Vivi were also hinted before but we don't know much
    I think less big news a bit mire focus would have help the reader. Especially if it is the only inter arc chapter and we will have to wait one year for the next

    All in all the reveal of Sword was the most interesting for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Razh View Post
    Well Kuma bots were only made possible by Kuma himself agreeing to be a guinea pig. Doubt we're getting other Shichi versions of Pacifista.
    Are they required? Like for kuma I had the impression they got him because of his past rather then needing him to create the pacifistas. Other then the looks, they work different, like kuma with his paw powers, pacifistas with the lasers.

    Then again, with smoker taking the punk hazard kids to him and the whole giantification thing teased in previous arcs, it could be that is vegapunk's new invention, giantification. Like maybe pacifistas now are elbaf giant sized or something.

    Or based on momonosuke/kaidou deal, he found a way to clone to fruits and give pacifistas fruit powers, like full ones, not just kizaru's gun laser. All I know is luffy is going to face this new weapon and defeat it when luffy gets to vegapunk. And having this weapon get hype by capturing the warlords.
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    Quote Originally Posted by uniaka ikuzakas View Post
    Are they required? Like for kuma I had the impression they got him because of his past rather then needing him to create the pacifistas. Other then the looks, they work different, like kuma with his paw powers, pacifistas with the lasers.

    Then again, with smoker taking the punk hazard kids to him and the whole giantification thing we had in previous arc, it could be that is vegapunk's new invention, giantification. Like maybe pacifistas now are elbaf giant sized or something.

    Or based on momonosuke/kaidou deal, he found a way to clone to fruits and give pacifistas fruit powers, like full ones, not just kizaru's gun laser.
    They look like clones so I imagine they needed his DNA or his exact measurements or both.

    As for why his body of all people was used, who knows. As an example maybe? To see the likeness of such a benevolent king turned into a terror bot is a nice little message to anyone who doesn't want to play ball with WG. That and his big body has lot of room for storing different technologies.
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    Did Vegapunk clone Kuma and then turned the clones into cyborgs with Kizaru´s laser?
    They can´t be fulyl robots since they bleed, but i do not remember or never understood if they were just clones or lookalikes that were made to look like Kuma.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MiyamotoMusashi View Post
    Did Vegapunk clone Kuma and then turned the clones into cyborgs with Kizaru´s laser?
    They can´t be fulyl robots since they bleed, but i do not remember or never understood if they were just clones or lookalikes that were made to look like Kuma.
    Franky thought they were humans modified to look like Kuma or something like that.

    But has Franky even heard of cloning at that time? Maybe he was trying to explain it with what he knows.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Razh View Post
    Franky thought they were humans modified to look like Kuma or something like that.

    But has Franky even heard of cloning at that time? Maybe he was trying to explain it with what he knows.
    Iirc, Drake, who knew of the project, said something along the lines of "you put Kizaru´s laser in Kuma´s body" but i do not know whether we should like it literally or not.
    Besides, what relevance does Kuma´s supposed strong body have when you replace it anyway with stronger metal?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MiyamotoMusashi View Post
    Iirc, Drake, who knew of the project, said something along the lines of "you put Kizaru´s laser in Kuma´s body" but i do not know whether we should like it literally or not.
    Besides, what relevance does Kuma´s supposed strong body have when you replace it anyway with stronger metal?
    Don't think it should be taken literal. As someone who is supposedly centuries head of his time, Vega should be able to create lasers. Kizaru may have given him an idea. Or maybe not. After all, Franky recreated the laser using tech in Vega's old lab.

    It probably can't function without the human component properly. Bigger bodies have more space. Really don't think Oda went that deep into thinking of whys and hows of Kuma bots.
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    Vegapunk can also create dragons, maybe his new creation is related to that.

    Quote Originally Posted by MiyamotoMusashi View Post
    Did Vegapunk clone Kuma and then turned the clones into cyborgs with Kizaru´s laser?
    After what we learned in chapter 840, I think it's pretty much confirmed:
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    One thing we do know is that Oda had planned on Kuma becoming an army of bots from the start, and that influenced his design. He was originally going to have a ship steering wheel stuck in his head, but that wouldn't have worked for mass production so Oda shelved that idea, and later gave it to Shiki instead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by King Cannon View Post
    Spamming that every post won't help your case. It could be just a coincidence.

    I really doubt that page means anything, especially when Oda already admitted some of his ideas have changed with time, including the Wano arc or how Kaido loses.

    In any case, it's unlikely either Drake or Koby would be loyal to Akainu.

    There's also no explanation about how Akainu could be so clueless about Wano's forces when he has a spy stationed right there.

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    He has that dream about writing a book.

    Like been stated everything could be an coincidence and that coverpage doesn't prove anything, but it is still not deniable as you are maybe trying to make it.


    I mean look at Akainu his left arm's tattoo and then that little right arm SWORD tattoo, I mean what is the matter of him having that SWORD tattoo. And the Wano-Kuni vibes that was give by the environment? I mean really few speculated that this picture means, that Kizaru and Akainu could really go to Wano or it was a tease, that we would learn there is a SWORD unit in Wano-Kuni..

    And really let's be honest how is it unlikely that neither coby nor xDrake (we don't even know his relationship to Akainu) would be loyal to Akainu, because at the end of the day Coby was promoted to a Rear Admiral of the Marine HQ under Akainu and Sengoku himself stated back [in Dressrosa], to Fujitora that Akainu would be a forgiving guy..

    Plus let's be honest that would really be too much now--- first the WG is taking decisions about Doflamingo and Dressrosa over Akainu's permission with CP0 situation and now him as a Fleet Admiral having no "knowledge"about the unit would be really too much..

    On the other hands Akainu not knowing how the situation about Wano's forces is definitively a weird one, but maybe xDrake has given intels now through, due the intels xDrake has gathered now- I mean Akainu maybe has now the intels to connect the dots (we don't know it yet. it's a 50/50 thing either he has it or is still clueless)

    Yeah to the point where Oda admitted his changes (what do you mean with Wano and how Kaido loses) Is that more a thought of yours after Luffy "mastering..." ryu or what do you mean with "how kaido loses"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robby View Post
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    That would actually be a bad, BAAAAAD idea. If you ever get compromised and enemies get into your territory, (as just happened with the BB pirates) them having access to perfect tracking devices of every major member of the organization would be baaaaaad.

    If they were only "is this person healthy" cards, that'd be fine. But as tracking devices... nope.

    That said, maybe they did have them and burned them when BB attacked.
    If you don't split the card, then they work as you say, just a certificate of safety.

    Cards don't point to their person, but to their other pieces, Raileigh claimed that the strawhats would go to Shabody instead of going to the calm belt back to just before the timeskip, because he left his card. (Chap 591, one of the volumes that I actually have on hand)

    I remember that it was pointing to Ace himself, but that and the actual text contradict eachother, unless Ace ate his, or just didn't search him throughly, as he still had his necklace and clothes

    But we haven't seen what happens if you make 2 cards for the same person, could the vivre cards be trackeable that way?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Razh View Post
    I think Porneglyph only shows location of Uranus.
    The one in Alabasta shows the location of Pluton, which is most likely in Alabasta. This could be the reason why the Nefeltari family stayed in Alabasta, to protect Pluton.
    Cobra knew the content of the Ponyglyph but not necessary the exact location of Pluton. Cobra said that the country would have fallen in Crocodile's hands if he knew where Pluton was, it indicates that Pluton is somewhere in Alabasta.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Razh View Post
    It would be a lot more interesting if new batch had new design(s). Just to keep things fresh and maybe add a mystery or two. And Kuma bots are far from useless as they are, especially if there's more of them. I shudder to think how many of them are now, if the production went steadily for 2 years. In theory, every marine battleship could have a whole squad of them.
    I imagine that the bearbots now number in the thousands. But yeah there should be some sort of alteration to the design to keep it fresh. Streamlining it a bit maybe.

    Quote Originally Posted by MiyamotoMusashi View Post
    Besides, what relevance does Kuma´s supposed strong body have when you replace it anyway with stronger metal?
    Maybe it's like with the tyrant in resident evil? That only a one in a million has a body that can survive the bonding process and that is why they all are Kuma clones.

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    Vegapunk can also create dragons, maybe his new creation is related to that.
    I co-sign on the laser robot dragons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zhenja View Post
    The one in Alabasta shows the location of Pluton, which is most likely in Alabasta. This could be the reason why the Nefeltari family stayed in Alabasta, to protect Pluton.
    Cobra knew the content of the Ponyglyph but not necessary the exact location of Pluton. Cobra said that the country would have fallen in Crocodile's hands if he knew where Pluton was, it indicates that Pluton is somewhere in Alabasta.
    Poseidon's info was in Skypea's phoneglyphs, Robin was about to lament that the history was just the weapons, until she saw Roger's message.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zhenja View Post
    The one in Alabasta shows the location of Pluton, which is most likely in Alabasta. This could be the reason why the Nefeltari family stayed in Alabasta, to protect Pluton.
    Cobra knew the content of the Ponyglyph but not necessary the exact location of Pluton. Cobra said that the country would have fallen in Crocodile's hands if he knew where Pluton was, it indicates that Pluton is somewhere in Alabasta.
    I was just playin', since he wrote Porneglyph.

    Btw, Ponyglyph search actually came up with something...

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    Quote Originally Posted by King Cannon View Post
    What is Wano's part 1 equivalent? I can buy Dressrosa as a new Alabasta, but Wano's structure doesn't remind me of anything in particular.

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    Dude counted his bounty wrong.
    I have said this many times but Wano is Marineford. Its set up to be a bigger battle, as has been hinted many times and likely will be.
    Also, my guess is the final arc will be right after Wano arc ends.
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