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    I recently finished watching this a few weeks ago. (I binge watched it.) I really enjoyed it, plus it gave me a bit of a Neon Genesis Evangelion feel too. Though the story is pretty non-linear and the ending is up to interpretation. What is everyone's thoughts and theories about this series and its story?

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    For me, personally, I feel like Lain basically became the "Jesus", while the "father" is God. Though I can see how she can be considered God too. Though the ending was a bit sad since she deleted everyone's memory of her to save the planet.

    Though one scene that scared me was the alien scene. I was not expecting that.

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    I've seen Lain twice and still don't understand any of it. Or remember any of it for that matter. None of those things you mention sound familiar.

    The only really strong take I have on it is this video.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Robby View Post
    I've seen Lain twice and still don't understand any of it. Or remember any of it for that matter. None of those things you mention sound familiar.
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    Yeah, I really paid attention to it. Though I also read a bit of the plot synopsis of it. It's mostly the final episode that I'm referencing to in where she deleted herself.


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    As for the "alien scene" I mentioned in my other post:



    The only really strong take I have on it is this video.
    Lol, that was an interesting video. Especially since one of the themes of Lain is the internet and communication.

    I do plan on watching the series again at one point to see anything I missed from the story.

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    As for the other scene I mentioned in how I feel like lain became "Jesus" and talked with her father who I think is "God" is this one:


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    I watched like 5 episodes and dropped it. My feelings towards it was that keeping track of what's happening was meaningless because many scenes didn't convey anything or have an impact the overarching narrative.

    It also bothered me that some of Lain's friends reacted badly to her "changing", since she was a walking vegetable in the beginning of the series. Too many times someone talked to her and her response was a confused look and silence. Changing in Lain's case meant starting to speak and developing a personality.

    And there was an episode that had a heavy "video games makes kids murdereres" vibe.
    Wash your hands.

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    SEL was my favorite anime for the longest time (until I watched MoNoNoKe), but is not the kind of anime that everybody will enjoy: most of the time there is this oppressive silence, oppressive lack of motion, it is the kind of anime that tries to cause an effect on you by forcing you to go through its emptiness more than through its metaphysical ramblings and that's the kind of thing that can get annoying if you are not in the mood to watch paint dry. I probably wouldn't have enjoyed it myself if I wasn't in the perfectly right mood for it when I stumbled on it, so it was really a matter of the right anime at the right time.
    To this day, the soundtrack alone is able to send me back to the same place I was back in 2002 when I first watched it, so to this day it is still in a very special place for me.

    A few months ago I decided to watch it again after nearly a decade and I was sure I was going to hate it for its edginess, but somehow I think I managed to enjoy it even more than on the times I watched it as a teenager/early 20's. The scene with the father on the last episode... I started crying when the first chords started playing and went like that until it was over.


    Also this track is one of my favorites in any anime OST ever:
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    It was something I had always known about when I was younger and I think I might have watched a couple of episodes in the early or mid 00s but it was only in the last few years I watched it all the way through. It has a nice aesthetic but it is a bit hard to follow if it even has deeper meaning to a lot of the stuff it throws at the watcher. There being multiple Lains is one of the better parts imo, and seeing how they act. Ultimately I didn't find it as great as its reputation suggests (I much preferred Haibane Renmei, which has the same character designer) but it's still pretty good.

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    It was really ahead of it's time in the sense that the internet was not like today when this was made yet predicted tons of things that are happening today on social media.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El-Matematico View Post
    I watched like 5 episodes and dropped it. My feelings towards it was that keeping track of what's happening was meaningless because many scenes didn't convey anything or have an impact the overarching narrative.
    Yeah, Serial Experiments Lain has a really non-linear story, so it can get confusing.

    It also bothered me that some of Lain's friends reacted badly to her "changing", since she was a walking vegetable in the beginning of the series. Too many times someone talked to her and her response was a confused look and silence. Changing in Lain's case meant starting to speak and developing a personality.
    Oh, that never bothered me. They were so used to her being this one way, so for her changing how she approached herself and people's reactions made sense to me, to be honest. I feel like they were not expecting her to act any different.

    And there was an episode that had a heavy "video games makes kids murdereres" vibe.
    I remember that episode, but I didn't really get that vibe at all. I believed it got explained later with the KIDS act or something, and with how the Knights wanted to revive that.

    Quote Originally Posted by .access timeco. View Post
    SEL was my favorite anime for the longest time (until I watched MoNoNoKe), but is not the kind of anime that everybody will enjoy: most of the time there is this oppressive silence, oppressive lack of motion, it is the kind of anime that tries to cause an effect on you by forcing you to go through its emptiness more than through its metaphysical ramblings and that's the kind of thing that can get annoying if you are not in the mood to watch paint dry. I probably wouldn't have enjoyed it myself if I wasn't in the perfectly right mood for it when I stumbled on it, so it was really a matter of the right anime at the right time.
    Yeah, I get it about not everyone being able to enjoy it because of how different and non-linear it is compared to other similar media. I honestly enjoyed it a lot and I plan to watch it again. To be honest, I can really related to lain a lot with how I feel about myself.

    To this day, the soundtrack alone is able to send me back to the same place I was back in 2002 when I first watched it, so to this day it is still in a very special place for me.
    Yeah, the soundtrack is quite good! My favorite is the opening song!

    A few months ago I decided to watch it again after nearly a decade and I was sure I was going to hate it for its edginess, but somehow I think I managed to enjoy it even more than on the times I watched it as a teenager/early 20's. The scene with the father on the last episode... I started crying when the first chords started playing and went like that until it was over.
    Yeahhh the ending really was sad to me, for her to finally have peace, and she felt like this was the only way.

    Also this track is one of my favorites in any anime OST ever:
    I like the song! It's pretty peaceful and it gives me feels xD

    Quote Originally Posted by Sakonosolo View Post
    It was something I had always known about when I was younger and I think I might have watched a couple of episodes in the early or mid 00s but it was only in the last few years I watched it all the way through. It has a nice aesthetic but it is a bit hard to follow if it even has deeper meaning to a lot of the stuff it throws at the watcher. There being multiple Lains is one of the better parts imo, and seeing how they act. Ultimately I didn't find it as great as its reputation suggests (I much preferred Haibane Renmei, which has the same character designer) but it's still pretty good.
    Yeah, the multiple Lains bit really showed how she was struggling with the different parts of herself from what I seen. I didn't really hear about it till like very recently. Now, I understand where two of my friends' usernames came from.

    Quote Originally Posted by PatTraverse View Post
    It was really ahead of it's time in the sense that the internet was not like today when this was made yet predicted tons of things that are happening today on social media.
    Yes, indeed! It showed the communication of the internet and how it is important to connect, and Serial Experiments Lain was created in 1998!

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    There's a name I hadn't heard in a long time. When it was released it had a real reputation for 'edginess' and pseudophilosophical content. I remember enjoying it as a teen, but it's hard to say what that'd translate to in adulthood. A lot of the themes that resonate with an adolescent (isolation, finding oneself somewhere in the increasingly disjoint world of Others, change, growth, something about acceptance of your own eccentricities - am I misremembering this stuff?) would probably fall pretty flat today.

    Watching that clip all I can think is damn there wasn't much actual animation in that show eh? Just a bunch of stills.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fdsfgfs View Post
    There's a name I hadn't heard in a long time. When it was released it had a real reputation for 'edginess' and pseudophilosophical content. I remember enjoying it as a teen, but it's hard to say what that'd translate to in adulthood. A lot of the themes that resonate with an adolescent (isolation, finding oneself somewhere in the increasingly disjoint world of Others, change, growth, something about acceptance of your own eccentricities - am I misremembering this stuff?) would probably fall pretty flat today.
    Well, I'm 32 and it really resonates with me. I agree with you on the themes, though it is also shown that Lain was struggling with mental illness or multiple personalities. So, there's that too.

    Watching that clip all I can think is damn there wasn't much actual animation in that show eh? Just a bunch of stills.
    I guess I'm the weird one, I like the animation style that was used, though I don't get the stills bit much. Maybe it's because when I think of stills I think of them being like 20 seconds+ long or something with no dialogue, etc. Just complete silence and looking at a painting like two scenes from Neon Genesis Evangelion.

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