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    Default Re: New Opening Them "DREAMIN' ON" by DA-iCE (Start on 02 Aug).

    Just watched Over the Top again to compare. The "preview section" in Over the Top was 10 seconds long, while this one is 20 seconds. It's literally double the length.
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    Default Re: New Opening Them "DREAMIN' ON" by DA-iCE (Start on 02 Aug).

    No one has mentioned the three dopes constantly fighting with each other for the lead in that one shot and I am honestly sad. Law, Kidd, and Luffy acting like children was the highlight for me.

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    Default Re: New Opening Them "DREAMIN' ON" by DA-iCE (Start on 02 Aug).

    Dat Monster trio scene
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    It's been used quite a few times in the manga, most recently in chapter 606.
    Oda does use the term "怪物三人組 (Monster Trio)" in the very manga itself."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crossword View Post
    Unless the voice credits are being held longer the preview clips seem to be the same length to me.
    They were only about ten seconds long in the last opening.
    This opening has twenty seconds of preview clips.

    Quote Originally Posted by jmbjr View Post
    Just watched Over the Top again to compare. The "preview section" in Over the Top was 10 seconds long, while this one is 20 seconds. It's literally double the length.
    You got to it before me.

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    Default Re: New Opening Them "DREAMIN' ON" by DA-iCE (Start on 02 Aug).

    Okay, I stand corrected. I was going by what credits were on the screen at the time.
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    Default Re: New Opening Them "DREAMIN' ON" by DA-iCE (Start on 02 Aug).

    Is the preview clips going to be a placeholder for matchups or Flying six?
    Both seems to be like it is going to be awhile
    Or..maybe it's just going to be preview clips.
    Also the lack of O Tama makes me sad
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    Default Re: New Opening Them "DREAMIN' ON" by DA-iCE (Start on 02 Aug).

    So much for my hope of the preview to being a one time fluke xD
    Do kids have such a short attention span that you have to show them a preview of the episode they're going to watch? Same with Sonys 5 second teasers before they start their trailers... Has to be some japanese cultural thing I don't get ^^' .. and dont want xD
    But the're are some nice shots in here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shuhan View Post
    No one has mentioned the three dopes constantly fighting with each other for the lead in that one shot and I am honestly sad. Law, Kidd, and Luffy acting like children was the highlight for me.
    Yeah. Best part of the theme by a mile.

    Last theme, it was the villain cuts ending with Komurasaki.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lhūgion View Post
    So much for my hope of the preview to being a one time fluke xD
    Do kids have such a short attention span that you have to show them a preview of the episode they're going to watch? Same with Sonys 5 second teasers before they start their trailers... Has to be some japanese cultural thing I don't get ^^' .. and dont want xD
    But the're are some nice shots in here.
    They added that when Nagamine joined as series director, and the opening was cut short from the old 2:30 minutes to around 2 minutes.
    I remember when Nagamine said in an interview that he was asked to "update" the OP anime like he did to DBS, so my best guess is that he found the old format to be excessively long and tiresome, so maybe he wanted to cut it even shorter and the preview was a compromise. I mean, if we take it out we have the average lenght for anime openings these days.
    It's also a way to keep the openings more fast paced.

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    Default Re: New Opening Them "DREAMIN' ON" by DA-iCE (Start on 02 Aug).

    Is it really a way to keep the Opening fast paced?
    Because for me it's taking the flow out of the opening and destroying the pacing because episode animation tends to be slower than opening animation. But maybe I'm just wierd
    And again... waiting...

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    Default Re: New Opening Them "DREAMIN' ON" by DA-iCE (Start on 02 Aug).

    It's...okay. Not terrible but nothing really all that spectacular.

    The song's fine, standard upbeat tone, gets the job done.

    Visuals...eh. Kinda all over the place really. Felt like they peaked a little too early in the song. I mean I liked the shot of the SH staring down Dragon Kaido and them charging at Big Mom. And heck, even a quickie of Blackbeard but everything else just goes by so fast to process it and there's no rhyme to it (methodically speaking I mean). Still not a fan of them showing clips from the episode, and it's even longer then "Over the Top" opening, obviously padding to keep the song going. I wished they used more of the Wano cast in a more meaningful way considering the next few eps are gonna focus on flashbacks, seriously why aren't they shown scrapping with the Beast Pirates, this is just as much their arc? Plus Luffy punching at Kadio feels a little redundant considering "Over the Top" likewise ended on that note. I think a better one would've been them sailing to Onigashama and crashing into the festival while Kadio and his Pirates stand ready to rumble. They don't have to show the Tobi Roppo, or at the very least keep them shadowed. Then just ending with Luffy and Kaido rushing at each other.

    Overall, it's just middle of the road for me. I don't hate it, but I doubt I'll return to listening to it.
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    Default Re: New Opening Them "DREAMIN' ON" by DA-iCE (Start on 02 Aug).

    Agreed on most all of that. OTT has a real nice structure and flow to it, direction/animation-wise. This one definitely feels more spastic. I only really like the beginning, honestly. Not too fair to compare it to OTT, though; that song and visuals was just too strong to top.
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    Default Re: New Opening Them "DREAMIN' ON" by DA-iCE (Start on 02 Aug).

    The first minute of the opening is fantastic! The spoilers now don't give as much context for them to make sense to anime only viewers, but enough context for familiar manga viewers to get excited. You can see they have shaded some characters to not spoil anything that's right around the corner.

    The 20 second preview window and Luffy vs Dragon form Kaido is now extremely tiresome.

    Overall it works as the 2nd of at least 3 Wano arc openings, but it can't beat Over the Top.

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    Default Re: New Opening Them "DREAMIN' ON" by DA-iCE (Start on 02 Aug).

    This one is kinda boring, but I guess there wasn't much juice to squeeze out of the end of Act 2 and the Oden flashback without going full blatant spoilers or making the opening awkward and unfocused. Hopefully we get a new more exciting one for the raid.

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    Default Re: New Opening Them "DREAMIN' ON" by DA-iCE (Start on 02 Aug).

    Sometimes I wish they’d just stick sakuga moments from the episodes into the theme. Would be super cool to see Sanji kicking Page One or Zoro cutting Killer every episode in the theme.

    But it’s nice to have new animations, too; trouble is when they aren’t really any good or worth having.

    Like other people have said, the first minute or so of the visuals is good; it’s the back half that suffers.
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    Default Re: New Opening Them "DREAMIN' ON" by DA-iCE (Start on 02 Aug).

    Eh...I'm okay with the new opening.

    The animation is fantastic. The song is overall nice, but I don't like the way the song ends. I like the opening songs better when they end with lyrics.

    I feel though that it's a little *too* fast-paced. It jumps so quickly from one thing to another that it's hard to process.

    The "episode preview" bit being extended to 20 seconds was bothersome. It felt like it went on for way too long. As was suggested earlier, I'm hoping it'll be cut back down to 10 seconds later on, perhaps when the anime can safely reveal the Tobi Roppo or something.

    I kinda prefer when openings tell a story, in a way. This one seems to be a rushed collection of various scenes and flashback bits that don't necessarily fit with the tone of the music at that point. Towards the end, the music dials back a bit and becomes more...god, I'm terrible at describing music or using musical terms...well anyway, the music dials it back a bit, but the animation has Luffy charging up a super powerful attack against Kaido. Maybe some flashback bits, or shots of the Navy, would have fit better there. I dunno.

    Overall, I like it. As certain characters are shaded out, I'm sure we'll be getting some incremental updates to parts of it.

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    Default Re: New Opening Them "DREAMIN' ON" by DA-iCE (Start on 02 Aug).

    The song's catchy and energetic but compared to "Over the Top" it feels like fairly standard interchangeable boy band fare. The preview that was released the other week instantly reminded me of "Hard Knock Days", a song that I have similar feelings towards, and the full two-minute version doesn't change that perception.

    But while the general footage has more of the usual One Piece opening tropes it is carried by some incredible visuals. The key animator list is heavily, heavily stacked with big names and I'm especially glad to see Takeshi Maenami and Shu Sugita still on board. Jun Arai is the name that most surprises me though; he's an animator that specializes in mechas (naturally he does the General Franky cut + the Scabbards for that matter) and I thought that he had left the industry a couple years ago. I guess it just goes to show how unpredictable the Nagamine era is, haha.

    So-so song, but really godly visuals. You can see a lot of really cool frames if you frame step through all of those Haki activation sequences. I do hope the third Wano opening will end on a more creatuve note than having Luffy punch dragon-form Kaido for the third time, though.
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    Default Re: New Opening Them "DREAMIN' ON" by DA-iCE (Start on 02 Aug).

    Screw the fact that Chopper doesn’t get a serious fighting pose moment in the opening, just cutely holding up a sword on General Franky’s Shoulders.
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    Default Re: New Opening Them "DREAMIN' ON" by DA-iCE (Start on 02 Aug).

    Something I just realized: is this the first opening that's shown Luffy fighting and never once utilizing any aspect of his Devil Fruit? It's a Armament Haki. Feels like an unintentional commentary on how the series has progressed.
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    Default Re: New Opening Them "DREAMIN' ON" by DA-iCE (Start on 02 Aug).

    I miss the older openings.
    I mean Hands up was the closest we get to a pre 2.30 style of opening and I really liked Hands Up.
    I don't get the need for us to be overwhelmed by action action action and colors are vomiting at me.
    It's cool for the first few viewings but has little nostalgia or historical value.
    But then again, I don't particularly dislike this opening but it felt like an opening 22.5 instead of being able to stand strong by itself.
    I'm so sick of seeing Kaidou in the openings.

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