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    Holy fuck, they fucked up Kaido. I read through the spoiler thread, but ignored the scans and wasn't read for that last page. They legit hit him as good as Oden did. I think the 4 of them equaling Oden is more than fair, but it was still surprising. Lots of people have debated the strength of that hit for months and months now and I think next week (hopefully) we may get our answer, unless all 9 of the scabbards are distracted just as Oden was.
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    Butters looked great in this chapter. Hope he doesn't go and die for the new generation or some bullshit like that. Solid chapter overall, liked the song playing over the rooftop battle. Black Maria is pretty sensual for a ten foot tall lady too. Wish Shinobou would just take Luffy at his word when he says this guy is alright, but oh well. Hopefully it'll resolve it self next chapter

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    Quote Originally Posted by andre View Post
    Holy fuck, they fucked up Kaido. I read through the spoiler thread, but ignored the scans and wasn't read for that last page. They legit hit him as good as Oden did. I think the 4 of them equaling Oden is more than fair, but it was still surprising. Lots of people have debated the strength of that hit for months and months now and I think next week (hopefully) we may get our answer, unless all 9 of the scabbards are distracted just as Oden was.
    So if four scabbards is one Oden, how many Odens in a cavendish?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joy Boy View Post
    No I'm displeased because the events in the manga right reek of inconsistency.
    Like what? A few examples would be nice.
    BTW, would be nice to get an answer this time, not like last time when you didn't reply any more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wolfwood View Post
    Butters looked great in this chapter. Hope he doesn't go and die for the new generation or some bullshit like that. Solid chapter overall, liked the song playing over the rooftop battle. Black Maria is pretty sensual for a ten foot tall lady too. Wish Shinobou would just take Luffy at his word when he says this guy is alright, but oh well. Hopefully it'll resolve it self next chapter

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    So if four scabbards is one Oden, how many Odens in a cavendish?
    Why would she when the first thing Yamato does is proclaim to be someone Shinobu watched die, straight faced? It's stupid and insensitive.
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    Yay! That was very satisfying seeing the Scabbards get to show off like that. If the get taken out of the picture from here on out I'd be content. Of course they should probably be there for the full fall of Orochi.

    Kaido questioning how they can hurt him does raise interesting questions. Someone in the spoiler thread brought up the idea of some Alabasta style performance enhancers. We've already seen 2 cultures who protected Poneglyphs and were allied with the Ancient Kingdom who posses some form of strength boosting life sapping drugs. Alabasta and Fishman Island. Maybe there is something there? The counter argument is that the brute strength alone shouldn't be what it takes to hurt someone like Kaido. Maybe a combination of that plus the Ryuo.

    I loved the little flashback of no one wanting to learn the 2 sword style of Oden and then 4 of them proceeding to use it. Beautifully done! Something about it actually made me get emotional. Reminds me of when I avenged my own teacher.
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    I had written a reply in the spoiler thread before it was closed, so I post it here because I don't want to throw away the time I spent.

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    I can still get behind the Strawhats defending the ship for a moment against a natural calamity really, but her [Big Mom's] disease? Nah, not credible with the background of being at the top of piracy for 4 decades or more. If the Strawhats can take advantage of something that frequently pops up (we saw 2 hunger episodes in the arc itself in a short amount of time), then all her rivals should have a field day with her.
    I don't think it's that simple.

    Yes, it's true two hunger episodes happened 3 days apart, but there's a reason for that. The second one happened because Big Mom was building up her desire for the wedding cake for days, so she went crazy when she couldn't eat it. It was contextualized, justified, not random, and it was obviously there as part of the drama and characterization. As for her first episode, it needed to happen in order to set up the concept, as it would be really weird if Big Mom went on a crazy rampage at the end of the arc if that had not been established before.

    We can't take these two occasions and extrapolate them to the rest of her life. Usually, it may even take months or maybe years between these episode. It's not like Totland is destroyed or half her kids dead, lol. And even when the hunger pangs happen, they might be quickly resolved with regular sweets. The wedding cake was a bigger issue because they couldn't make another one in time.

    It's also not clear-cut that Big Mom is weaker in that state... at least not until she gets really thin.

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    So Kaido has other elemental powers just like Pirate Warriors 4 huh? Guess he is gonna shoot ice next?

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    If Marco knows where the last Road Poneglyph is, he could be able to split Big Mom and Kaido by telling Big Mom it's location.
    And the BMP could get their hands on Kaido's Poneglyph, that way they would be out of the picture for Wano and return in a following arc, maybe Elbaf.

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    Why was Marco in flame mode? Did he heal someone? Hope he didn’t heal BM.
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    Holy shit, what a chapter to receive after a long break. The Scabbards are certainly going out with a bang, Raizo impressed me the most this chapter given that we've barely seen him fight beforehand.

    Pleasantly surprisied by Kaido having more than fire breath (will he have other elements?), and glad the Carrot/Perospero confrontation is finally confirmed.

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    Scabbards are not going down, luffy can have the next arcs, this battle is all them.

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    Why was Marco in flame mode? Did he heal someone? Hope he didn’t heal BM.
    Bug Mom wasn’t hurt... she was just thrown outside.
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    Quote Originally Posted by uniaka ikuzakas View Post
    Scabbards are not going down, luffy can have the next arcs, this battle is all them.
    If Oda does that, there will be a lot more Joy Boys around here. If he doesn't, then he did his job phenomenally if anyone ever even considered that to be the natural plot progression.
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    I had written a reply in the spoiler thread before it was closed, so I post it here because I don't want to throw away the time I spent.



    I don't think it's that simple.

    Yes, it's true two hunger episodes happened 3 days apart, but there's a reason for that. The second one happened because Big Mom was building up her desire for the wedding cake for days, so she went crazy when she couldn't eat it. It was contextualized, justified, not random, and it was obviously there as part of the drama and characterization. As for her first episode, it needed to happen in order to set up the concept, as it would be really weird if Big Mom went on a crazy rampage at the end of the arc if that had not been established before.

    We can't take these two occasions and extrapolate them to the rest of her life. Usually, it may even take months or maybe years between these episode. It's not like Totland is destroyed or half her kids dead, lol. And even when the hunger pangs happen, they might be quickly resolved with regular sweets. The wedding cake was a bigger issue because they couldn't make another one in time.

    It's also not clear-cut that Big Mom is weaker in that state... at least not until she gets really thin.
    Also i don't think people that on BM level meet so often to even take advantage of something like that and she still a monster even that way .
    Like it was decades before she saw Kaido again after they were on same crew 38 years ago .

    On to the chapter the art was so great this chapter .
    Nice to see them get in some hits .
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    This was a pretty great chapter!

    There wasn’t a lot in the way of story developments because it was mostly action oriented but that doesn’t mean there’s nothing to talk about. Quite the opposite in fact.

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    I really liked the short scene with Big Mom, Perospero and Marco outside Onigashima. Big Mom assuages Perospero’s concerns about allying with Kaido when she subtly hints at her intent to betray Kaido. Which really shouldn’t come as a surprise. Big Mom and Kaido’s motivating desires for finding One Piece are completely different. Kaido wants to start a global war and Big Mom dreams of an idyllic utopian state where all races of the world live in harmony…. Under her tyrannical thumb.

    Those ambitions were never compatible, so it has always seemed like a matter of when not if this alliance falls apart. Peropspero presses the issue by saying he and the rest of her children want to make her Pirate King, which, she acknowledges and tells him to trust her, implying Big Mom is fully aware of the incompatibility of her and Kaido’s ideals.

    Marco’s alliance with Perospero ends when he realizes their interests aren’t mutual.

    Big Mom questions Marco’s decision to aid the Straw Hats and implies he represents the remnants of Whitebeard’s crew in their entirety, but Marco counters by stating the former Whitebeard Pirates freedom to act individually. They aren’t bound by ‘the word of pops’ – the word of Whitebeard.

    I think what Oda was really shining a light on here was the difference in ‘parenting’ style between Whitebeard and Big Mom, which reflects their respective moral character. Whitebeard’s crew weren’t his biological children. Most of them were orphaned, or lost, and thus constituted a found family. Ace, the son Whitebeard gave his life to rescue, was in fact biologically the son of his greatest rival, Roger.

    Whitebeard regarded his crew like children, raised and guided them, but didn’t force them to abide by his wishes. We know Ace went rogue in pursuit of Blackbeard, a sin for which Whitebeard ultimately paid the price. When Oden chose to join Roger, Whitebeard, despite his anger, didn’t stand in Oden’s way.

    This contrasts pretty strongly with Big Mom, whose crew consists almost entirely of her true biological children, forced to live and act as she desires. So Big Mom’s assumption that Marco’s actions are somehow representative of Whitebeard’s wishes is a reflection of her values.

    Perospero and her other children want to see her become Pirate King – but they didn’t really have much choice in that matter. Where Whitebeard’s crew chose to call themselves ‘sons’ of Whitebeard when they joined his crew, Big Mom’s children are forced into servitude from birth.

    I think what this potentially sets up is the continuation of Big Mom’s story arc beyond Wano. When Ace went off on his own, Whitebeard was willing to go to the ends of the Earth to shield him from the consequences of his errant actions. Conversely, Big Mom disowned Lola when the breakdown of her betrothment to Loki ruined Linlin’s chances of securing an alliance with the Giants of Elbaf.

    Yet we saw on Whole Cake Island that some of her other children, Chiffon, Pudding, Katakuri, even Brulee, have to a degree come to respect the Straw Hat Pirates and act independently of their mother’s wishes. Big Mom has a tragic backstory / childhood and it would certainly be in keeping with Oda’s style to write her some sort of redemptive arc.

    At this point, I’m not sure how it’ll play out, but I think it’s likely connected to a future Elbaf story arc. This could also be where the current cover story arc which has reunited Chiffon and Lola is headed.

    Moving on from there, we see Carrot racing off to ‘avenge Pedro’s death’, which we can assume to mean, face Perospero. Wanda pops up out of nowhere after disappearing for the past 15 chapters.

    Personally, I’m hoping she doesn’t play a major part in the battle against Perospero. Wanda is really a peripheral character at this point, and avenging Pedro could be a significant character moment for Carrot.

    I believe Carrot is likely to join the Straw Hat Pirates, so I think it’s significant Oda is setting her up for a prominent moment of her own during the story arc. Carrot didn’t use her Sulong transformation yet, which could potentially put her on a level playing field with Perospero. The fact that Oda has singled her out seems significant, but Wanda’s presence does put that into question.

    I believe the narrative role of the tragic flashback to instill a motivating desire in members of the crew was filled for Carrot by Pedro’s death on Whole Cake Island. His dying words stressed the important role Luffy and the Straw Hats are meant to fill by bringing the light of the New Dawn.

    Pedro passed on to Carrot the message that every person has their time to shine, words spoken to him directly by the Pirate King. Roger’s message was passed on to Carrot and now, she may take center stage in a fight against Perospero, the one ultimately responsible for Pedro’s death.

    I also think the panel progression at the bottom of page 2 is interesting. We see in two vertically aligned panels, Carrot and Luffy rushing off from the performance area where the Straw Hats were assembled, which could be a simple visual cue she is meant to join.

    On that topic, we have Yamato at the top of the following page still chasing after Momo.

    At this point, I’m still of the opinion Yamato is not intended to join the Straw Hats, though there is still time for that to change.

    The cover of WSJ this week does feature Yamato and Luffy standing back to back, but it’s worth noting Oda has never before previewed or featured a future Straw Hat on the cover of Jump Magazine before. The one exception here being Nami on the first issue in which One Piece appeared, but those were very different circumstances.
    I briefly want to mention the song Black Maria sings which serves as transition from the opening scene.It seems to describe two lovers separated on a snowy night reunited under the moonlight. I’m planning to release a video exploring this topic in greater depth soon, but it’s important to pay attention whenever the moon is mentioned in One Piece as I believe it is one of the most important and recurrent symbols throughout the series with relation to the deepest mysteries in the series.
    Like Binks’ Sake, it’s possible this song may in some way relate to the central narrative arc of the series.

    The majority of this week’s chapter is focused on the battle between Oden’s retainers and Kaido on the roof of Onigashima and it was really well done.

    Post-TS, Oda has largely skipped over fight scenes which don’t involve Luffy, but I think what he did here was excellent.He managed to propel the action along at a fast pace in a short number of pages while spotlighting all nine members of the scabbards. I really don’t think long battles drawn out across multiple chapters are needed. I think Oda here realizes a healthy middle ground between that and the alternative of completely skipping fights.

    I really love the double page spread where Kaido and the Scabbards first face off. Raizo had a really standout moment where he demonstrated his ninjutsu’s ability to turn Kaido’s own attack back on him. His ninjustsu have been mostly used for gags, so it was really surprising for him to use them so effectively her against Kaido. I wonder how ninjutsu works in One Piece. Is it Haki related?

    Inuarushi joins Zoro as a practitioner of the Santoryu style. The bullets Izo fires alongside Kiku’s attack seem to have a sort of gravitational effect, drawing in Kiku’s attack into a sort of orbit.

    Everything looks like it’s going great for the alliance at the moment, but I suspect we’ll soon learn what makes Kaido so unkillable.This scene is playing out eerily similar to the battle between Oden and Kaido in chapter 970. Oden delivered a serious blow, but before he could finish off Kaido, Higarushi interfered and diverted his attention.

    I have a theory video about Kaido and the Secret of the Dragon Devil Fruit where I elaborate further on this idea, but I believe, as an eastern style dragon, Kaido’s inability to be killed is in part derived from good fortune.

    Full Theory Here:


    Kaido here remarks that the retainers are not as powerful as Oden, yet are managing to inflict serious wounds, much to his surprise.

    It’s important to note that Momonosuke’s artificial Dragon Devil Fruit may also possess this passive ability or trait of imparting good fortune, so his presence on Onigashima may be responsible for the Scabbards current stroke of luck. But what happens if Shinobu and Yamato remove Momo from Onigashima? Could the odds once again turn in Kaido’s favor? As the text box which accompanies his introduction reads, ‘in a one on one fight, always ‘bet’ on Kaido’.

    We’re 8 chapters away from 1,000 and I believe we’re likely closing in on the end of Act 3. In Kabuki plays the third act ends in tragedy. The battle went really well for the Scabbards this chapter, which ended with them dealing a serious blow to Kaido.

    Whether or not I’m right about the role good fortune plays in Kaido’s winning streak, I think we’ll soon realize what makes Kaido so unkillable, when the tables turn and Kaido emerges victorious.
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    This chapter is so delicious to read. Pure visual bliss!

    Also, I always like when Oda writes Big Mom's dialogues. There's always a conflict, a verbal arm wrestling game and a lie.

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    993: things get worse

    next chapter the scabbards are totally going to get wrecked you guys

    believe it

    you heard it here first folks

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    Quote Originally Posted by theackwardstation View Post
    I had written a reply in the spoiler thread before it was closed, so I post it here because I don't want to throw away the time I spent.



    I don't think it's that simple.

    Yes, it's true two hunger episodes happened 3 days apart, but there's a reason for that. The second one happened because Big Mom was building up her desire for the wedding cake for days, so she went crazy when she couldn't eat it. It was contextualized, justified, not random, and it was obviously there as part of the drama and characterization. As for her first episode, it needed to happen in order to set up the concept, as it would be really weird if Big Mom went on a crazy rampage at the end of the arc if that had not been established before.

    We can't take these two occasions and extrapolate them to the rest of her life. Usually, it may even take months or maybe years between these episode. It's not like Totland is destroyed or half her kids dead, lol. And even when the hunger pangs happen, they might be quickly resolved with regular sweets. The wedding cake was a bigger issue because they couldn't make another one in time.

    It's also not clear-cut that Big Mom is weaker in that state... at least not until she gets really thin.
    This is wrong. The moment the eating disorder was introduced, it is pretty much implied it is a regular occurrence and everyone knows about it, it´s not something that was triggered by the Strawhats but regularly by something she craves in that moment.

    See above, it´s not something that is far in-between, this was never implied, but everyone immediately knows how to act and gather what she needs immediately exactly because it happens so often.
    Top tier fights can be days long, Akainu vs Aokiji was 10 days, a little skirmish between Roger and Whitebeard was 3 days, while every time Big Mom is relevant on-screen she is throwing a fit.
    Put that together with the supposed Great Pirate era and the chaos that came with it, yep it lacks credibility.

    She is the same natural monster, she does not have intelligence and the instincts though, Haki usage is irregular and so forth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zhenja View Post
    Like what? A few examples would be nice.
    BTW, would be nice to get an answer this time, not like last time when you didn't reply any more.
    I think Joy Boy actually made two appearances in this issue... at the bottom of pages 9 and 13

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