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    Quote Originally Posted by Nia
    This one? (I just searched for "Sailor Moon OST Uranus Neptune" lol)
    Ehem, yeah...that's the one...good job!!!

    Edit: Sounds really beautiful.
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    It's from Vanessa Mae.


    Robby, look up, I posted the new theme song... won't be the old one :(

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jabra View Post
    How is Sailor Moon aged? The animation looks top notch to me, even for todays standards.
    No. It's not.

    It's really not.

    Some of the individual drawings are okay. The animation isn't. The coloring is very 80s and faded, the backgrounds are generally bleh, the reused frames are many, and the animation is... not all that animated. The transformation and attack sequences, which got reused for 40-80 episodes at a time got some decent animation thrown at them, BECAUSE they were going to be used endlessly, but the actual material in most of the episodes looks pretty bad.

    It's like looking at the old Slayers anime and going "It looks fine as is!" and then you compare it to the OVAs, movies or Slayers Revolution and it looks terrible.

    Also, the OP anime is crap and done on minimal weekly budget (despite being as huge as it is), its not a good comparison to go to most of the time. Its the shorter high quality series you want to compare to.
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    Holy balls! I never did see how the show actually ended. I may have to pick that up and junk.

    I'm kinda excited to see it all shiny and new. It was pretty much the first anime I watched as a kid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RobbyBevard View Post
    No. It's not.

    It's really not.

    Some of the individual drawings are okay. The animation isn't. The coloring is very 80s and faded, the reused frames are many, and the animation is... not all that animated. The transformation and attack sequences, which got reused for 40-80 episodes at a time got some decent animation thrown at them, BECAUSE they were going to be used endlessly, but the actual material in most of the episodes looks pretty bad.

    It's like looking at the old Slayers anime and going "It looks fine as is!" and then you compare it to the OVAs, movies or Slayers Revolution and it looks terrible.

    Also, the OP anime is crap and done on minimal weekly budget (despite being as huge as it is), its not a good comparison to go to most of the time. Its the shorter high quality series you want to compare to.
    Hm, yeah you got a point there.

    Tho you say that I shouldn't compare it to OP, but Toei is aniamting the new episodes? Doesn't that worry you? I must admit I don't know all that much about the production of anime's, but if they slack on something huge like OP, maybe they will on Sailor Moon as well.

    In any case, I will watch the first season no matter what. It has been 16 years now and I'm feeling like pressing the nostalgia buton. Badly.


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    Tho you say that I shouldn't compare it to OP, but Toei is aniamting the new episodes? Doesn't that worry you? I must admit I don't know all that much about the production of anime's, but if they slack on something huge like OP, maybe they will on Sailor Moon as well.
    It depends on if they attempt to make it a long running weekly, or if they initially plan to only do a limited number of episodes. That'll determine how they alot their time and budget. As is, the manga is done, so they won't *need* to do filler... but the manga moves at such a brisk pace some padding is needed to flesh the characters out and give the villains time to shine. (In the manga all villains tend to die after like... a chapter. Rather than 10 episodes. )

    And no matter what, unless they go SUPER cheap, the sheer advent of technology and digital animation in the last 20 years means it'll look better. High def digital coloring at the very least makes an astonishing amount of difference.
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    looks fine but
    looks better.

    tells the story but

    tells the story with some style.

    Again, just using Slayers example because it comes to mind as an older early 90's show that had a recent remake. And of course that's just screenshots, not actually in motion where the big difference is.

    Of course, the writing is the most important part and the fanciest animation in the world won't cover a bad story.

    I wonder if SM is going to have reused transformation sequences again. Its part of the show's history, so... maybe they can get away it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jabra View Post
    Tho you say that I shouldn't compare it to OP, but Toei is aniamting the new episodes? Doesn't that worry you? I must admit I don't know all that much about the production of anime's, but if they slack on something huge like OP, maybe they will on Sailor Moon as well.
    I wouldn't worry. "One Piece" is a long, long, long series and the manga won't end for quite some time. To get a new episode out each week of course they're working on a budget. It's a given that this new series will be much, much shorter, no comparison, so in that case the animation will be much higher quality.

    Regardless I don't give a shit about whether animation is limited or not. "One Piece" is not an OVA.

    Also wasn't it wolfwood that asked what's with this whole revival thing? Well it's the 20th anniversary after all, they're kind of doing a Kai thing here, except it's actually new. Anyway from what I heard I don't think a re-edit of the original animation ala "DBZ" would work.

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    still one of the most heartwrenching scenes I've ever seen. especially 0:16-0:19 and then again 2:25 and what comes after it...

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    I used to be one of *those* sailor moon fans, starting when I was like 13, (many many many) years ago, roaming A sailor moon romance forums (AKA ASMR)

    I used to have posters on my bedroom and somethimes I felt like doing my hair un buns and all that hahaha,.... My computer was called Amy! LOL

    Anyway, I would like a re-launch of the series AS LONG as they actually follow the Manga's story line, Manga Usagi was more emo somethimes but I think generally speaking emotions ran a little deeper in the Manga.

    Also, Anime was very repetitive, with all the "droids" and random enemies appearing each chapter, (almost everychapter was filler in some way) so if they do a reboot I HOPE its manga based

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    I hope Saban dubs it again and takes all the heart out of everything again.

    "Me, a moon princess? Now this is way past weird!"
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    Haaaaa I remember Sailor Moon.

    In my country I remember that the last episodes made really sick, all that I remember was lot of blood and deaths(at least I think that was Sailor Moon) and all on a kids channel.

    Good times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IceBorg View Post
    Haaaaa I remember Sailor Moon.

    In my country I remember that the last episodes made really sick, all that I remember was lot of blood and deaths(at least I think that was Sailor Moon) and all on a kids channel.

    Good times.
    There was definitely no blood. Except for Galaxia in the last ep, but that wasn't a lot

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nami View Post
    There was definitely no blood. Except for Galaxia in the last ep, but that wasn't a lot
    There was no blood, but the last episode of the first arc (at least I think it was the first) was absolutely brutal considering the target audience (in my country). A proper mindfuck when you are like 9 and your favorite characters die painful deaths one after another. It isn't really about violence, but the emotional aspect to it.



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    Oh, you're talking bout the first season.. I meant the last. And compared to the last season's finals, the first season finale isn't that brutal :P

    But yeah, it was all a huge shock, but I loved it. BRING OUT ALL THE EMOTIONS

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nami View Post
    Oh, you're talking bout the first season.. I meant the last. And compared to the last season's finals, the first season finale isn't that brutal :P

    But yeah, it was all a huge shock, but I loved it. BRING OUT ALL THE EMOTIONS
    What happened to them in the last? Can't really remember.


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    Zoicite was totally a dude.

    Most dubs just make Zoicite into a woman because of the hair and the eyes and the relationship with Malachite and really, thats much easier to deal with.

    This occurs again with some of the later villains as well. And some of the heroes.

    ...That show had gender issues.
    Yeah, but when Hunter x Hunter does it, it's totally cool.

    Anyway, I only watched as much of the original Sailor Moon as Toonami allowed us (that is, everything up through the Pegasus arc), and I'll always remember it as one of my first anime and one of my favorite childhood. Though, yeah, it's pretty dumb and has aged terribly.

    Still, really cool to see it's getting another anime and tentively, yes, I will be interested in seeing it once it comes out. Kind of a coincidence too, since the manga is currently being (re)released here in the States.

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    Yeah, but when Hunter x Hunter does it, it's totally cool.
    I'm sure if Saban was dubbing Hunter they'd make the girly looking characters women as well, at least the ones in obvious romantic relationships with a clearly male character. Because... that's easier. Especially if they were trying to hit a wide mass market american saturday morning audience of 10 year old (which HxH will never be. Not in America anyway.)

    Hell, in Power Rangers they made the yellow ranger into a girl, and that was live action!


    Personally, their workaround on the lesbians later on was just hilarious. You didn't make them any less gay, you just made them incestuous!

    Also, Zoicite had nothing on Fish-Eye. He was actively feminine.


    Hawk Eye's bra-toga skirt thing was pretty feminine as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RobbyBevard View Post
    I'm sure if Saban was dubbing Hunter they'd make the girly looking characters women as well.
    I'd consider that an improvement (nothing against LGBTs, I just don't get Togashi's fascination with gender-bending).

    Hell, they made the yellow ranger into a girl, and that was live action!
    Always did wonder why she didn't wear a skirt, like Pink.
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    I mostly remember it being weird that they kept saying "Wicked Awesome" in the dubs like they were from Boston or something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nami View Post
    There was definitely no blood. Except for Galaxia in the last ep, but that wasn't a lot
    Well it was more than 10 years ago I don't remember alot.


    Actually has anyone read the manga? How is it compared to the anime?

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