smoker using suro?

[SmokeBomb]

I couldn't find any posts of this in the search function, so I'll just ask this. Do you think smoker used soru against luffy in their first match? I know it's the anime, but it seems accurate. check this out. just fastforward it to 5:00 or something.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kb6Ch6MSHLE

["Fire Fist" Ace]

What the hell is Suro? Sounds like a wrestling move.

If you're referring to Soru, no, Smoker didn't. Smoker's not a Grand Line Captain and therefore probably didn't know Soru. It's very possible he's learned it since the encounter in Alabasta, but he probably doesn't even need it. He's got a devil fruit that not many people can fight. Unless Usopp sucks him into the Milky Dial, I don't see the Strawhats beating him anytime soon.

And NEVER, EVER, EVER use the Anime for a reference. It's not Canon. At all.

[SmokeBomb]

lol oops i'll go edit it out

[Mr. All Sunday]

I thought Smoker was a Grand Line Captain? And he probably didn't use Soru, as Oda might not've even come up with it then. Smoker can probably move quite fast in smoke form as well.

["Fire Fist" Ace]

No, Smoker's not, but he's on the level of those that are.

Based on what we know, Smoker grew up in Loguetown and probably joined the Marines and served in East Blue till he made Captain. His "F-You" attitude is what keeps him from being a Vice-Admiral, which he is easily on the level of.

[Polygon]

Smoker is a HQ (ie-grandline) captain.

[SmokeBomb]

well it's very possible since he's a grandline captain(which i just found out). I think luffy vs. smoker 2/3? would be somewhat like luffy vs. lucchi in that smoker uses Rokushiki. But for only the first part of the battle, since there are secrets to the moku moku friut - which i can't make any predictions of since i know nothing of smoke.

[onemoment]

What is this? I thought it was confirmed that Smoker was a man who was far more powerful then his position suggested. And yes, he's more of a "Grandline Captain" anyway. Please don't compare him to those 200 captains, there's no comparsion.

Anyway, I think Smoker just used his speed to duck out of Luffy's sight. People are forgeting that not everyone needs soru to be fast.

[SmokeBomb]

i'm just making assumptions on how luffy vs. smoker 2/3 would go. I don't know what smoker is doing right now, but i have a feeling that they are going to meet up again. And it may not be pleasant.

[Zulen]

Didn't Smoker quit the marines after Arabasta? He told the government officials to "Eat Shit". Anyone remember that...? Why do I vaguely recall him quitting?

["Fire Fist" Ace]

No, because Kuzan had a message from him that he mentioned during the Davy Back fight, but thought it was too stupid to tell to Luffy. Smoker was just doing what he always was when he snapped at the WG.

[onemoment]

Also, after that scene there was another scene where Smoker said "We're going to keep chasing the SH crew." So, they are still out there.

[Yoyoi_kumadori]

How can anyone doubt that he´s a Grand Line cap´n? I mean he IS on the grand line and i don´t think anyone disagrees, when i say he´s way above "average" captain level (think someone already mentioned that). And as smokebomb already mentioned here, i don´t think we have seen the last of the smoke smoke fruit.

[Silence]

Smoker is an HQ captain, which means he's a Grand Line level captain.

Captain Morgan, in comparison, is an East Blue Captain.

If that isn't convincing enough - the latest instance of Smoker being mentioned was by Ussop, who, when confronted with the 200 captains, said something along the lines of "HQ Captains?! 200 people at Smoker's level?!"

Smoker is an HQ captain, and it's been suggested that he's stronger, but hasn't been allowed to advance because of things like insubordination.

[spaz]

why do people keep brining up soru just cause coby and cp9 use it doesnt mean everyone thats fast uses it

[Zulen]

Generally, when someone uses Soru, they "move as fast as if they dissapeared". That quote is from Luffy himself Episode 273. I'm pretty sure Smoker was just naturally fast, because he didn't dissapear, it was more like a solid and very visible blur.

why do people keep brining up soru just cause coby and cp9 use it doesnt mean everyone thats fast uses it

No. It's because Coby and the CP9 could use it is why we're talking about it. It would seem that Soru is a technique passed down by rank in the Marines, so we're trying to figure out what rank you need to be to learn it.

[Angel emfrbl]

why do people keep brining up soru just cause coby and cp9 use it doesnt mean everyone thats fast uses it

Got it in one...

Guys remember Kuro, Oda CONFIRMED his Shakushi was more or less the same speed. The only difference being that Kuro can't see who and what he is striking. In a fight, he'd loose for that reason.

[Mr. All Sunday]

Plus the fact that CP9 are about ten times as strong as he is.

Unless someone has specifically stated at some point that they are using Soru (such as a CP9 agent saying "Soru" before he or she uses instantaneous movement, you could then assume that he or she is using Soru everytime they move in this way). Smoker never said Soru, so he didn't use it; I think it might be possible that he knows it now though.

[Cap'n Carter]

What the hell is this

[Masta D.]

Smoker is an East Blue captain whether you like it or not:

http://groups.msn.com/OnePieceManga/...o&PhotoID=1987

And since the anime is being used to support this, why is it even open...?